Another incident at Lee USP; inmate killed

**Unchained** · October 5th, 2008, 06:49 AM

It had nothing to do with bringing work home. As I stated before,more than one agreed with me (that were not C/Os)

**imported_burrhead** · October 5th, 2008, 02:04 PM

You choose to be a prison guard, and prison guard is all you are because Lord knows you don't correct anyone. But you are all the time bitching with the garbage you put up with. You don't hear spuds and I bitching about all the crap we put up with. Or Greenmonster complainining about his daily headaches. You do it for attention because you were never shown any attention growing up, and are looking for that so called feather in your hat. You are doing a job that most any Tom, [richard] or Harry could do. What's so hard about walking the halls checking pods and if something is wrong, calling 4 or five of your buddies, and getting off camera, beating the snot out of someone. Now that takes a man. If you don't like your job---simply quit.

**Unchained** · October 5th, 2008, 02:34 PM

Hello Dr. Phil. Thanks for the eval (a mistaken one at that). As for anybody doing it,I'd lay the odds at 100% that you wouldn't be hired there. There have been alot of folks who have tried to get hired there to no avail. You know next to nothing about the profession (as evidenced by the stupid beat an inmate off camera comment-newsflash : this isn't 1950,and it isn't Shawshank. Every incident at ROSP is videotaped-every time we go into a cell-ask your cuz,and he'll set you straight. the "good 'ol days" are way past over),and you know absolutely nothing about my years growing up. No doubt spuds and company has a tough job (I respect him for doing it),but this thread wasn't about underground. This thread was about a prison incident,and it was about me being callous with an inmate,something that I'll not apoloize for. See,I do have sympathy in me,but unlike many,I save mine for folks who have had their lives turned upside down by these perps. If that makes me the vilian on here? Aw shucks [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/whistle.gif[/img]. What a wonderful country we live in where we can say what we want,huh?

**Milk3** · October 5th, 2008, 03:07 PM

Indian Dad said what many people are thinking big deal get off his ass. I dont work at a prison/ jail and never have and i think it sucks that the guy died but he put himself in that situation by going to jail nobody made him get put in jail.

**imported_burrhead** · October 5th, 2008, 05:41 PM

You can shove it also. I've got alot of friends who are prison guards and Ole Bandy just lied out his smart mouth about the beatings. I guess you have been raised on tough love who had to eat milk and bread out of a bucket with 8 of your half brothers and sisters only to be strapped by your step-dad for taking the last bite. Give me a break.

**Gotch** · October 5th, 2008, 06:50 PM

I said I wouldn't make another post on the subject, and really I'm not...just on the thread.

Someone, maybe a couple of posters on here had mentioned the training and so forth the guards go through. Well....

There's really only one (broad) subject that I feel I can speak on as a near absolute authority and that is martial arts, self defense, hand to hand, etc. All connected but all somewhat different.

Now to the point. I have had high level students work in the prison system including 2 of the 5 people who made instructor level under me. I can tell you as an absolute that the techniques they were taught were wrong, dangerous, and at times incredibly stupid.

So what's the point? I'm just pointing out that AT LEAST one aspect of the training is not only not helpful, but potentially very harmful to those being taught. I can't help but wonder about other aspects of the training?

I have no idea about any other aspect....just makes me wonder.

**imported_burrhead** · October 5th, 2008, 06:55 PM

Just go out in your yard, point a shotgun at a tree, and fire. You are a certfied sharp shooter deluxe.

**MikeJones** · October 5th, 2008, 08:00 PM

What if you piss on said tree 2? Pisser supreme?

**Milk3** · October 5th, 2008, 08:40 PM

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Burrhead</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You can shove it also. I've got alot of friends who are prison guards and Ole Bandy just lied out his smart mouth about the beatings. I guess you have been raised on tough love who had to eat milk and bread out of a bucket with 8 of your half brothers and sisters only to be strapped by your step-dad for taking the last bite. Give me a break. </div></div>
You're nuts man haha

**MikeJones** · October 5th, 2008, 08:58 PM

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: vthokie22</div><div class="ubbcode-body">R13 is slightly right on this one...i say slightly because you worded your argument wrong

it's sad actually...and what is funny about the situation is you guys are not even addressing what R13's argument was

R13's argument was that the "one less mouth to feed" comment was ignorant...well, it wasn't really "ignorant" (since he does have a knowledge of the situation and others like them...however, it was a "classless" statement, which is where i think R13 was going with his argument

you guys defend ID by saying, "you don't know what these guys are like" or "he wasn't in prison for singing too loud in church" when that doesn't even address the issue at hand at all

it doesn't matter one bit how much of a scum someone is or what gang they run with or how big of a "billy badass" they are...that still doesn't make ID's comment anything but classless

as far as the Obama comments go...it is the popular opinion that the conservative party is supposed to be the party with all the morals...you'll sit in church and listen to your pastor preach on "loving thy neighbor"...now you'll have to correct me, it's been a while since i last read the passage, but i'm fairly certain it doesn't read "love thy neighbor...well, unless he's a felon, then his life is worthless"

having said that, it's comical to watch conservatives quote the Bible for things like abortion and gay marriage, but then conveniently forget what the Bible teaches in their daily lives...especially when it comes to compassion for other human beings, smart or dumb, free or in prison, white or black, gay or straight...it's whatever is convenient...when the Bible helps you make your point, it's a great tool to use, but then when it comes to make that tool a practice, it is conveniently left behind

but then, you see liberals standing up for the rights of people who are oppressed (homosexuals, women, african-americans) and they are looked down upon by the very people who will point to the Bible as their main purpose for living

it's sad...and i'm not endorsing either party as being the more moral party, because Lord knows they both have their problems and contradictions...it's just plain sad

so....ignorant? nah, probably not...classless? very...contradicting? you better believe it</div></div>

You should read the thread again. The ignorant part was covered.